tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13814531.post6542343129388086795..comments2023-10-17T10:53:10.916-05:00Comments on The Kitchen Door: The Fear of Killing SuperpastorDi McCulloughhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05903996304750469325noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13814531.post-17864825617573349272007-06-04T21:18:00.000-05:002007-06-04T21:18:00.000-05:00I'm just reading VE as well. But I too can "say n...I'm just reading VE as well. But I too can "say no but feel guilty when I do." Ack!Dorcas (aka SingingOwl)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15626748280614018533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13814531.post-63634316987646420512007-06-01T21:38:00.000-05:002007-06-01T21:38:00.000-05:00I realize I am coming a little late to the party a...I realize I am coming a little late to the party as far as the discussion, but haven't had time to finish the book (yes I get the irony here). This particular part of the disucssion brings to mind BBT's book and the "super" she tried to be and how that seemed to be part of her downfall.RevDrKatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06043193615563649333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13814531.post-46600793523852250382007-05-29T15:30:00.000-05:002007-05-29T15:30:00.000-05:00Oh, I've definitely known many women who have fall...Oh, I've definitely known many women who have fallen into this pattern, too. There are times when I do, too. I just can't help but notice that the conversations about sabbath and self-care have become more common in recent years as more and more women have become clergy. <BR/><BR/>I love what DBB has to say about this. You'd think that we as pastors would be more careful with adhering to one of the Commandments, but instead, we are just downright prideful about our sin! hmmmmm......Irishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07036519649244011605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13814531.post-68107637892181173572007-05-29T15:11:00.000-05:002007-05-29T15:11:00.000-05:00Hmm....women may lead the way in this discussion s...Hmm....women may lead the way in this discussion sometimes, but Iris - I have to add that women can also be the worst offenders when it comes to overworking. And being guilted into working more. I know I can. I think part of that is the never-done aspect of ministry, though there are certainly plenty of other callings in life where the same is true.<BR/><BR/>Dorothy Bass has a line about Sabbath in one of her books: to paraphrase, that breaking Sabbath is breaking a commandment, yet we not only break it, we brag about how much we do - how busy we are. And who would do that about any other commandment? "Man, you would not believe how many people I killed yesterday." "I am committing so much adultery that I can hardly stand it!" We forget that Sabbath is not just a good idea, it is a COMMANDMENT. We are to do it. We are not to argue about it or try to prove why we, as pastors, don't need it. <BR/><BR/>Boy, I sound like I have it all together when it comes to this stuff, right? And I thought I was really pretty good about boundaries (I still think I am, compared to colleagues) until I got married and my husband started telling me that I work too much. The best laid plans...Shalomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06089748396867624769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13814531.post-18786214428726655182007-05-29T14:27:00.000-05:002007-05-29T14:27:00.000-05:00Yes, we need to kill the superpastor! I've worked ...Yes, we need to kill the superpastor! I've worked with too many of them and I get sick of looking "less than" in comparison. I mean, I want my kids and husband to know my name. Also, I don't want my kids to resent the church for taking Mama away from them. I will choose them every. single. time.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, the fact that this discussion is even ocurring is a miracle in itself! Change is in the air and, I believe, women clergy are leading the way.Irishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07036519649244011605noreply@blogger.com